I created DialMagic to help manage those loooong dial lists in Poser 4. Happily, Curious Labs took care of that problem in Poser 5 with the Parameters/Properties palette. You can now arrange and rearrange your dials into groups anyway you want by simply dragging them around (You can still see the full, ungrouped list by chosing the list option from the drop down menu accessed by clicking the triangle at the top right of the parameters palette. Also options for making new folders, etc.) So DialMagic is for Poser 4 users. However, I'm happy to report that Victoria, Michael and StephanieXprssnMagic at DAZ and all the P4FemMagic products here work fine in Poser 5 - so no excuses for blank-faced characters! :-) Elisa/gryffnn