ACKK!! Steven, Please don't feel like you're under attack from me about this. I was just trying to find out what it was that I wasn't seeing. Maybe I worded it too strongly. Although I (and apparently some others)don't like some of the things you did with it. I do like the way you grouped the buttocks so that it does not warp when the figure is bent over. That gave me the idea to do it a different way and it allowed me to eliminate the tearing problem on the upper thighs as well. The important thing is that you don't feel as though I'm saying you did a crappy job on it. And if I hurt your feelings then I sincerely apologize. I love the way people here come up with new and different ways of doing things. It doesn't matter weather I don't like them or use them. It's the innovative thinking that I respect. Regards, ScottA