Here I go again - don't know what happen to the first reply. Melanie, I am sure you are gorgeous. Nor will I argue the points you made as I would lose. What makes us individual, interesting, or even beautiful is a biased thing. My beef with Millie/Victoria is that at this point you are kind of stuck with her as is. With the Poser4 nude female I could resize the hands, face, hips, etc., and create different looks, ranging from Barbie Doll to grotesque. Until someone makes morphs you are stuck with the stock "looks". And I personally do not find that "look" attractive. Zygote left that for someone else to fix. The other thing that bugs me is Victoria is not really an improved version of the P4nudeFemale as initially tooted and I anticipated. It was not that long ago that we at his forum were bing polled concerning what features we would like to see added to the Victoria figure not avaliable in the P4nudeFemale. What does that lead one to think? How many improvements (suggestions made) were adopted? In the end, Victoria turns out to be a new figure (not an improved P4 figure) that has some nice facial expression and joint improvements, but also is flawed in other areas - areas that perhaps the P4nudefemale was more pro. Because she is a new figure and not an (improved) P4 figure, she is not compatable with existing Poser4 clothing, hair, etc. So, this means additional expense, and/or somebody (other than Zygote) spending a lot of time and effort bringing her up to an expectable usable standard for Poser 4. Now folks are buying her (and rewarding Zygote) and yet turning around and complaining about Victoria not being what they wanted/expected. (?) I don't get it. Show me the advantages of why I want/need Millie/Victoria and I will buy her - but not because of fad or hype. Maybe I will be proved wrong in the long run, but I don't see Millie with much of a future after the new wears off. Rob