What a forum. I believe anything that is created, no matter how simple or complex is always within the creators vision. I unless directly confronted with the question, never criticize anything, I have opinions but express them as a question of direction. I really do not see how anyone can be a critic. If they are, then they are not competent to do the work themselves. Or just severely jealous and their ego has been insulted. We are all at different levels and should remember that. I just started working with Bryce and truthfully, I can only render the sky, water, and the ground. I can do what is given in the program, but to me I am not satisfied with my stuff, therefore would never reveal it to the masses. There are some who have not matured enough to be commenting and should refrain from doing so. Xeno66