Melanie, exactly!.. I think if you believe you'll have no use for her then why buy her? .. People shouldn't buy a model if they feel as though this isn't what they want or need.. I bought her because of some complex poses I like to do that just doesn't cut it with the standard possette so I've trashed some very interesting images because of it.. Goin' into Photoshop and repainting and stamping all over the place gets boring.. I'm not ditching P4 babe at all but for the more complex and intricate pose images I do I'll use Vickie and most definitely for the extreme close ups too.. She almost flawless close up.. I know we often get overly excited about anything new here only to get burned out really quick but Vicky will be part of my collection that will meet special needs for those special pictures.. I'll probably never buy the Zygote Dragon only cause I'm not really into that kind of imagery but it doesn't mean it's not worth the cost just it's not worth it to me... ~Cindy