No tjohn, I just logged on to this thread, and I'm with Johnpenn on this point, not all newbies to Bryce are unaccomplished. I personally have been exhibiting in the art community offline for around 25 years,(oopps my age is showing) I have a Masters in Fine Art and Art History, a Bachelors in Computer Science, I have paintings all over the world, I have gallery representation on and off, and I have a portfolio of awards, however, YES, I am new to Bryce, and in that respect a "newbie"! What right do you have to dismiss anyone's artwork because they are new to a software? THIS KIND OF ATTITUDE JUST CHAPS MY ASS! I apologize to everyone else for this outburst, I usually keep my feelings in reserve, but it hit a nerve...Agent Smith you have abundant patience...

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