I agree that we shouldn't put any pressure on any of the talented artist here to better our Victoria.. I appreciate any and all free morphs, textures and cloths that might come our way but if they don't I totally understand.. I mean some of us have a life other than poser and 3D app.. If Trav didn't make one morph I'd understand and respect that.. What he already has done for our poser people is more than enuff .. I didn't buy her thinking oh goodies now I'll just wait for the good free stuff come trickling down.. I bought her for those pesky hard to pose position I tend to favor in my images.. I also like the close-ups better than any of our other models.. Sorry folks I just don't think a rendered poser person looks good up close unless you got a good paint program to cover the major flaws.. They look awful to me, but Vickie looks great close up especially with her smile lines, brow lines, forehead lines and those eyes!... leave it at this.. If you want her for the posing or close up shots then she's a good buy.. If you want her to instantly replace P4 standard chick then be prepared to wait or learn to do your own morphs, cloths and texturing or shell out that old green energy for this stuff from Zygote.. Let's not lean too heavily on the generous folks here on the forum.. I think a lot of the artist here enjoy making stuff and yes a lot of them deserve to be paid by Zygote and Metacreations too, in my opinion...They've kept poser alive and probably generated more sales for these companies than anyone else..But for pete's sake I hope no one buys her and then complains and complains then begs and begs for stuff .. That gets old ... Be prepared and forewarned you get what you pay for .. Don't expect anything else unless your willing to pay for the extras, if it comes to that.. ~Cindy