AgentSmith, if you think that my post was written by a troll, then by all means, delete it. But I stated my opinion. Many times have I seen extremely bad renderings or images who won the highest degree of applause. Is it really subjective? Yes, based on you, me, anyone else. But are we supposed to hold that flame up high and hypocritize ourselves in the process? it's just the range of our imagination. personally i felt that some of those creations (despite the whole pearl analogy), didn't deserve votes. me, my own opinion, an opportunity for debate. as a moderator, i can understand how you might not be interested in stirring the proverbialities, but as a member i have every single right to do it. draculaz 8400444 mihnea@freewriters.ca