heyas; but who wants to save pz3's when they want a cloth prop (a pp2)? grrr! i don't want to save a simulation. i want to save the cloth prop knowing that it is clothified, and knowing what its default, choreographed, etc groups are. right now, when i jump the sucker into the cloth room, it's like i'm starting from zero. maybe after i re-clothify the parts, i'll see your cloth groups, phil. :/ you don't need to do a new simulation every time you change the pose, you just have to re-calculate the old one. the simulation isn't really anything, it just tells poser what frames to calculate (and/or how many frames to calculate.) so if you tell it 'simulation 1' is 15 frames of 2 steps, you can put any/all cloth in there for those 15 frames. you only need ANOTHER simulation if you want to simulate something else in some other frames. for a quick, stupid example, say that your female figure sits down on a park bench for frames 1-12 and sits there for 5 frames, and then a gust of wind blows her hat off in frames 18-25. so, okay, you set up sim_1 to run for frames 1-12, and stick the dress in there, so that stays on her body for those frames. then you can set up sim_2 to run for frames 12-15 and put the hat and wind in there to do that stuff. if you add a blouse to the dress, you don't need a new sim, you just stick it in sim_1 with the dress. or hair, you can stick that in both sims, so it follows her and gets blown by the wind.