We're going to need to make a new thread, I think...the challenge hasn't been clearly stated, and so far seems to be dedicated to a small vendetta Dodger seems to have to get me to order him an Anchovy pizza (it'll never happen). As for Total Training, you really can do no better. I was a Photoshop teacher for years and I'm nowhere near as good at it as Deke McClelland. You will learn a ton from him, but only if you expand and attempt the techniques elsewhere on your own. I don't mean to sound arrogant (I'm going to, but that's not the intention), but Deke is one of five people of whom I know that knows more about Photoshop than I do. He's been using the program longer than I have (which is saying something considering that I was using it before Adobe bought it or it had version number...1985 for you history buffs. Anyway, I've learned a great deal from him. I think it actually takes effort to not learn from him...he's that good. He also writes the Photoshop Bible and Photoshop for Dummies if you're interested. Both wise investments for users at any skill level. Dummy or not.