I've had it with Poser 5. I bought more memory. I got rid of Norton 2001 and Easy CD Creator 4 by Adaptec. I wasted six hours downloading the new and imprved patch. Followed all instructions meticulously. And went to start Poser 5 and got not only the blue screen, but my computer crashed to a black screen thereafter. And I am tired of hearing about how I am whining if I express dissatisfaction with this software. I know I'm a simpleton when it comes to software but I've never had this many problems with any software I've installed before. I don't know if Poser 4 will take me back or not. I don't care how cute this program works for the gurus...for a simply hobbyist like me, it isn't worth the cost. That sound is Poser 5 and my hard earned money flushing down the toilet. I'm tired. I'm frustrated. I'm going to bed and putting this ghastley experience behind me.