pdxjims - if you're a programmer, you probably know all about C's nasty tendency to poke its prying little fingers into all sorts of memory locations where it's not supposed to go. The CL gang at least TELLS us that this is what's happening, most other apps just keel over and that's it. I agree we're alpha testing for CL, but we're alpha testing for M$, too. And Adobe. And Corel. And...