I'm going of stuff I've read online, (mostly from hackers and crackers, and not a few annoyed end users) so this may not be that current. But One of the things i found most interesting was the fact that Intelok posesses the ability to reset your machine, which it does by monkeying with the keyboard, apparently because there is no other way of forcing a reset, except by faking the keypress. Which I thought was a fairly cool hack, technically. But the more you dig the more you seem to find that it really doesn't play nice with others. If anyone's interested, I've actually got the Interlok dev guide on CD somewhere, (got it from Pace before they resticted access to the documentation) I could make it available for those that want a better understaing of what it's doing. later jb