I think we need to give a nod of appreciation to Draculaz for sticking his neck out and starting this little fray. His motives were decent, but wrongly stated at first, but in the process we've all been given a chance to grow and learn that I think none of us would have gained otherwise. Thank you also for the critique on my image as well. Both aspects of the image, the height and the odd mapping though were deliberate. The use of a basic bryce landscape and material were also deliberate. I suppose that their are some things that I could do to improve the whole thing, and I probably will just for education's sake. I must stand, though, in defense of freebie models and materials being used in images. I am not an accomplished model creator. I'm not an architect or engineer, and really have no interest in becoming either. There are also a LOT of good modelers out there that have been kind enough to donate their creations to the free use of others. Sure there are many that are totally overused. I see it with many poser creations of clothing all the time. There are some models in bryce that we've all see over and over again. Does that make the compositions or models bad? I say not. They're used a lot usually because they're good. Sometimes very good. We should beware of thinking that using a free model or material gives us leave to dismiss potentially very good work because we've seen the model used somewhere else. What if we did that to all the Star Wars and Star Trek fan art, some of which is technically and artistically very adept, as garbage? Why should an artist feel pressured to attempt to create the same model that has already been created by another and offered for free, just to be taken seriously? I think we should work to avoid such snobberies towards those who use the models of others and look instead at how they are used rather than where they came from. Just my opinion for which you can take it as such, or reject it as such. IMHO