So Poser5 doesn't work with avatar lab unless you muck about with Interlok? Now call me a critic, but one would have assumed that CL would test at least thier own apps to make sure they'd play nice together. I can understand that they can't test everything, but that strikes me as a fairly fundemental test failure. I used to work for AT&T Labs (the only bit of labs outside of the US, now closed) there were about 30 people at the whole site, but 6 of them were the test team. We rolled our own code for the comms industry, so ever the smallest tweak was fully regression tested, etc. There were far more machines in the test clusters, than there were on people's desks. So, what say you CL? Care to comment? later jb