Well, I tried creating the figure in Poser 4 and then loading the pz3 file into vue4 and it came in fine. The hair was perfect. Unfortunately, I couldn't look at it because all five parts of the hair were in a group that couldn't be unfolded. I tried clicking on the icon for the material but it told me that this was a group of objects that were all mapped differently and if I continued they would all be reset to the first texture. I figured that was okay because all five parts used the same texture and trans. But all I got was the default sand texture. I did partially fix the poser 5 obj import. I deleted the hair texture and reloaded it and now the hair and transmap match up, but I still have problem with the sides of hair. It looks like the barber buzzed him right to the skin. I did run the obj export from poser 5 through grouper 1.1. I wonder if something happened there. I think I'll try it without going through Grouper, although grouper does make things easier to work with. Kevin