Well, I never watch the news, but I think you're confusing violence with either evil or insanity. Personally, I love fictionalised violence in films and books and art, as long as it's "wholesome!" Film 4 Extreme came up trumps tonight, with "Once Were Warriors" followed by "Chopper" - excellent double-bill! And the picture? "All I know is what Vic told me, man, said the place turned into a f#cking bullet festival. He took a cop hostage just to get the f#ck out of there." - Eddie, Reservoir Dogs