it's definately divided the community but not the way I thought it would, I thought it would be a straight Poser4/Poser5 split, instead it's more 3 way split Poser4/working Poser5/non working Poser5, I really hope they get all the problems fixed as soon as poss, then we can all get back to normal trading insults with the LW/Max only users. have a good one :)