Sigh Apparently the concept of "community" gets lost when it comes to Poser 5. People are missing the point big time. "...it doesn't effect me..." "I don't have that problem." "I don't do animation." "It's stable for me." I, I, I, me, me, me. Of all the posts citing problems, very few members have said, "I'm sorry you're having trouble, but..." Most just say, "Well I don't have that problem." Everyone's micro-managing this issue (I know, bad choice of words, but I just got up). Try to look at the big picture: We, as a "community" were screwed; we were lied to and used by CL. They used us to get money fast and they are using us as beta testers. Soulhuntre and other happy users, you are the lucky ones, but don't you realize you could just as easily been the unlucky ones? After all these threads about probelms, you must realize that CL just threw this program out and let the chips fall where they may; they got their money. So much for "caring" about their customers. And if the issues in my post about the protection scheme are true, that's proof positive CL could give a rat's ass about you or us. I love Poser too, I sincerely want it to succeed and grow. But how can it when CL does things like this? Do you think all this is good publicity for Poser? No wonder people in the professional 3d world consider Poser a toy. Now they probably consider it a joke. "I would be really surprise if as a general case sofwtare stability was enhanced by some 16 year old Jolt cola fiend mucking about in it with his stolen copy of "Soft Ice" ripping out chunks of code he only barely understands. Does that sound like something that would HELP to you?" What you say makes sense but, if the protection is causing the trouble, it would also make sense that a crack that takes you around it could help. That's why I asked some of those questions.