Hey, no one is saying the gripes aren't legit. What people are saying is that P5 is working for some people, so saying that it doesn't work at all for anybody is not correct. There's been a lot of posts where people have tried to offer solutions and work arounds to problems, or asked if others have noticed similar issues so a compresensive and coherent report could be sent to CL so the issue could get fixed sooner. I think that's very representative of this community. And the U.S. gov doesn't want peace, it wants to show that Bush Jr. is even better than his Daddy because he'll finish the job. (I voted None of the Above in the last elections aka Nader.)