I must agree with Poppi that Rhino is a GREAT modelling program. However, NURBS modelling can be difficult to use when you want branching meshes, like the human body with arms and legs. If I'm wrong, it would be nice to know how you handle this, Poppi. Subpatching handles branching meshes nicely. My favourite is LightWave. I like its interface, it's less cluttered than for example MAX, and you learn surprisingly quickly where to find everything. By the way, concerning the question about landscapes and character models, have you seen the ANS Graphics website? If not, take a look at it. There you will find beautiful pictures with landscapes and characters. They are made in Bryce and Poser, I believe. The address is http://www.ans-graphics.co.uk/ Caron