nerd: That's a pretty good idea. It's still not very hard for the pirate to put your updated stuff up on the p2p networks though - one of your members has to be the pirate, and since he's a legit member, he gets all the updates. All he has to do is put them into the shared directory. Still, it's a good idea. The pirate can't be THAT diligant. jval: I never thought of it that way....The idea has it's loopholes. I think the farthest I would go would be to not sell to that person again. Hmm....Here's a new idea. How about various merchants get together. The merchants that make similar stuff should get together - the Scifi merchants, the clothing merchants, etc - and they should all add footnotes in hard to spot places. When they find their products on warez groups/p2p software, they can notify all the other merchants boasting similar products. If another merchant in that group has found this person warezing, they can boycott selling to them. It's just an idea - it would take all the merchants getting together though, and not just a few.