Firstly Tuttle congrats for thinking up a Brilliant idea for a prize (though I do miss million dollars, rubber chicken and or fake breasts! :-P) Im putting in Doug Chiangs name too. But for judging I do feel Bryce related artists would make sensefor a Bryce Guru. Otherwise we could just have a Fantasy/ Sci-Fi art contest, and not put any limit on the S/W used! Rather let the picture speak for itself! Do I smell another contest here! ;-) Hmm Rudi, so you put in an extra year on me in the ad biz (Ive 13, PS, you in client servicing or media or copy. From your grouse, you definitely arent in the art department!!!!! :-P ) hmmmthat definitely disqualifies you as a Guru!!!!! :-P I think there are two aspects herestretching Bryces limits and secondly the work as a stand alone art. Having each work evaluated on both counts and then tallying scores might be a way of judging them! But while we are talking about judgingIm not too keen about the voting and then to 20 making it! The point is, if somebody has made an image the least that can be done is have the judges at least view them! Not to mention have people scampering for aliases to vote to be seen!!! ( I remember a few great images being left out in the Win Bryce 5 just cos they didnt have adequate votes! Thats sad!). And also Erlik, Boris knows Fantasy, Chris Foss knows Sci-fi ;-) and I know I need to get back to Booleaning! :-P