HUHHHHH!!!! Please not more bugs! Thanks for all these warnings! t me vcaSTe Savit' ay ary, as Rigveda X:34 v.13 says (= "This the noble Savitr here reveals to me") in a poem advising people not to gamble. It seems now that I better not gamble with Poser 5 until a long while has passed for more of the bugs to be found and the updates for them to get incorporated in Poser 5 as it is sold in shops in England.