Congrats FW Tempest! now it's up to you for the hardest part of the job.. find a greaaaaat topic! LOL.. I would like to say that since i'm a renderosity member I've seen rorch at the second place 3 or 4 times!.. I mean its great to be at the first place one time..is not such a big challenge.. but allways be a the second place mean that Rochr is allway one of the best.. allways... and that's what I call a real TALENT... respect man! pidjy