Hmmn I am on a Mac using OS 9.2.1. It seems that I find glitches with Mec4D-but was somehow able to work through and get the textures. I used IE 5.1. I do recall getting Java errors though. I dont think the direct link from the Forum worked-I seem to remember going directly to the site and searching until I found the textures- in Catharina's gallery I believe. Keep trying-they are WORTH the effort! Eric Walters