But then I've always had trouble with Catharina's sites, even back to the modeling days. They tend to be a bit heavy on the bells and whistles. I seldom bother to give feedback on site performance to anyone these days because the attitude is usually something along the lines of "get a PC." Not a dig specifically at you C., but I for one don't need all the flash. Your content is great, I just wish it were more accessible. I reluctantly gave up using Netscape because I had to if I wanted to get anywhere. Bill is winning this battle, guys.