Thanks Doug! I ordered "Vickie" on CD, so haven't had the chance to look her over yet. Since I plan to make my own "modifications", who she resembles initially is not a concern for me. Besides, there will be dozens of characters based on her around here soon enough. Thanks for making her available at, what I consider to be, a modest price and for addressing our concerns about basic morph targets (most generous of you folks to offer them for free!). This, and what you say will follow, should make Poser 4 viable for a lot longer and that's good news for all of us :o) -Jim Moore