well foleypro, there was a contest a few months ago for the 2D forum which had some killer prizes: Zbrush, Expression 2, Aurora, Studio Artist Pro, Deep Paint, etc, but it has come and gone, and the moderators have decided "NEVER AGAIN!!!!" Apparently, life sucked when doing that cont3est, what with old slynky complaining incessantly about not recieving his prize... which he finally did get, wahooooo. btw, Punkclown, don't read this, heh heh. as for the 3D prizes, I could sell'em again, otherwise no value to me personally.