That's a good picture. It illustrates a bunch of cylinders trying to connect to a spherical bone (or collection of bones). Not to mention how the skin has to stretch itself in such and odd way to wrap around everything. That's one of the hardest things to do properly in a modeling program. It's like a tree trying to branch out all in one place instead of one branch at a time as you go up. Definately an odd and inefficient way to arrange body parts. I'll have to spec. up a better design and show it to GOD. If and when I see him. ;-) ScottA