Yeah, I'm comparing. I got one of the horns down to 818 polys and it still looked ok, especially with texture. Down around 300 polys or lower it sux. But for some reason the rest of the horns have errors on wrl format so I must have some kind of problem in the basic obj model. Its late and I think I have to start over in how the horn is made. Might have twisted the vertices too much in the others. Gawd, what a hassle. Metasequoia will reduce, but I'm not using that. 3dexploration converts between formats pretty well. That vrml one posted above seems to be the best reduction tool if you don't mind converting file formats. I was able to go from 1.4m to 30k on file size.