Well i guess im gonna stick with poser 4 with my new system i ordered.........and use the money i have for poser 5 for another program or even some models ...wouldnt mind getting a decent 3d modeling program.....we will see......but ive made my decession from looking at the posts in the past month ......and the cons about the program outweigh the pros .....and plus for me to get the program shipped here would end up costing me 400 canadian bucks (the shipping and duty and taxes is what kills it for me)compared to the 129 U.S. price tag......which makes me wonder why canada is considered as international to the the states ...thats retarded ...sorry for goin off topic abit...... nnuu