That's exactly how I feel about it, I've used P5 for a few hours, it crashed twice, stuff didn't work, and I got more frustrated the slower it got, as I added characters to the scene. Then I set it rendering for an hour, immediately saw something I wanted to change, and P5 crashed for the second time. I gave up, loaded the pz3 into poser4, where it was fast, stable and a lot more fun. Which for a hobbyist, is the way it should be. Yay! :)