thanks Ian..pretty similar... I went through and changed my startup config and unchecked everything...all is still stable...it gives me about what you have.... The only problem, there are some items I like to have active...at some point... Is it possible to run multiple startup configurations with XP ??? It reboots so fast, its not much of a problem to reboot into a different startup.... OH..wait a minute...!!!! it's possible to define users in XP....with differing configurations !!!!! Poser 5...user no poser 5 user AH..the brain does work every now and zen :)

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