I assume that this kind of work could be of interest to Poser users, too. Orio...you nailed it. Post it if it will be of interest to others viewing that gallery. and, i SO agree with the 3 render example, as well. i am so tired of vicki out of the box, with market items out of the box....posed, textured, lit, out of the box...with still that vacant gooch-eyed vicki stare....geeze, so many of these all the folks did was hit the render button. but, r'osity will never have this toned down. it is too good for business.