I count 34 yeses and 12 noes. I didn't count ones that were unclear (like the "yas and no" one), but if I errored it wasn't by much and it was on the side of the yesses. That means more than a forth of the users said no. That isn't all that great considering a lot of the people here (not just in this thread) would have been happy even if they opened the box and found a pile of dog crap. I also believe the results would be much different had there not been the huge stink generated by P5. This isn't impressive at all. I watched the Carrara forum when 2 came out, the Painter forum when 7 came out, Bryce when 5 came out, Photoshop when 7 came out, and Vue when 4 came out. NONE of them even come close to the negativity generated when P5 came out. And that is respective of the individual forums' populations.