Questor, bless you_ I have most of your free stuff from DAZ, your generosity to the community (and all those other free stuff providers) is unquestioned and very much appreciated by 99.9999% of us here I'm sure. The quality of your models is quite superb and I quess that's partly what got under this creeps skin. He can't compete on price and probably can't compete on quality. ps that ? shower block set looks way cool..is it posted anywhere yet_awesome!