heyas; i have both running, here. i'll tell you, i want to slap a texture on a figure, i do it in p4! posing and setting up; i can do in either one. there are some good new poses in p5. i haven't been using the p5 split screen much, though. seems to take twice as long to set them all up, and then those annoying cameras are always appearing in the view. rendering.... depends on how cranky p5 is about it. i got more memory, so it should be happier now. meanwhile; i'm still rendering in vue, or p4. of course, with ray tracing, you have to expect long render times. you can't tell me bryce doesn't commonly take 5 hours or more to render a scene. ;)