Bloodsong and others do make good points about render times, and it's true that we cannot expect raytracing render times to be comparable to P4 render times. I suppose my complaints are directed more at the fact that many people expected the Firefly renderer to be a significant improvement over the P4 one even in fairly simple scenes. Maybe they were hoping for the "professional" 3D look that we've only been able to simulate using global lighting up until now, but without the lengthy render time. I would expect to wait an hour for floor reflections and volumetric light (well not really, I'd try to make them in Photoshop first ^_^) but I'll admit that I'm surprised that there appears to be so little difference in quality between the P4 renderer and Firefly in your everyday "normal" Poser render. Guess we should think of Firefly as a renderer to use ONLY when we need those sorts of effects, and to just keep using the P4 one otherwise. wdupre, I have my own folder of stuff on your system? I'm flattered. ;) SnowS

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