I'm one of those people that was not interested in upgrading to Poser5.Poser is not my main app.that I use,and all the new features that Poser5 offered are very nice, but not vital to me.However if I did see a need to upgrade,I would never have been the first in line to purchase it(as so many that are now having problems were).When large companies like Microsoft,Adobe.etc.release a new or upgraded softwear product, they are far from being problem and bug free.Those big boys have huge resources,funding,and manpower devoted to research&development...and they still can't get it right the first time around.Curious Labs is a small guy and lacks their resoures,so the fixes will be slower to come,and they need our understanding and our support.Yes I'm seeing more people that seem to be able to use Poser5...it just takes time.You must remember that Poser has always been a very odd,quirky,buggy program......BUT IT'S COOL...IT'S NEAT....AND IT'S ALOT OF FUN!