Ok, I seldom start with pz3 files-- unless the prop comes in that like MnD's sets-- because they don't work for me in P4. I'll work a scene until it or I am dead and if I have to save anything it'll be the character, because too many pz3's have shown up unreadable. All this in P4. So, first question, anybody able to load MnD Patio from pz3 in poser 5?? Any other set will do as long as it's a pz3. I also like to cram a scene with stuff, shoot through a window, that sort of thing. The last thing I did for the gallery, a pretty simple pinup, jammed a set, a vase and a tree into the picture. Do you think this is gonna mean trouble? I'll find out soon, I have a downloader that supports resumption of downloads and am going to download SR1 this weekend, I don't know if I'll actually load it till SR2 is here. I finally want to as there is a hair object at Rdna that I can use on a project-- P5 only, might know shopping would make me cave in.:)) Emily