Thanks for the advice Neftis_ With your hair (that comes with P5 (brilliant btw!) is it possible for us to create similar with skull caps etc_if so any tips? I take your point about facial hair and animation, the other problem of course is if you start using facial morphs then you lose the close application of a prop I suppose it might be possible to use Taylor to apply morphs to the props tho' (off to have a look!)