You also might want to make sure those pictures you saw with realistic trees weren't done in Vue.. that's Vue's strong point - great vegetation. Sadly, Bryce can't quite compete with the Vue vegetation, or the ease of making it, at least, though many of the better artists on here have done outstanding work in that field. Umm.. hehe.. good luck.. it's a lot of work, but it is possible to get good-looking trees. =) Rosh