Ronstuff, did you tried to lower the shading rate? Maybe to .05 or .025. Also it might help firefly if instead of using the bump map in the bump entry you use displacement with a low value in materials and when you render in Firefly production using radiosity you give it a minimum displacement value of 1. Something i learned today. see my thread a couple of threads below yours. Ronmolina is right, this is a brand new software. I found out today I can get better results than I could get with Poser 4, at least using bump maps.