Nice idea Poppi, but many of the really cool features of Poser 5 and especially flowing clothing, colision detection, and wind-blown effects can ONLY be rendered within Poser 5, so what good are they if textures look like crap? yeah, from what i see...p5 looks like a bit of a rip off. but, i am not for certain. i did not buy it because of the eula change. now, after seeing all the problems...i know i don't need it. sigh, that face room would have been some fun, i think.