Reiss-studio: Have YOU tried any of your suggestions? You really should do that occasionally. I've tried them all but they do NOTHING for the textures. Why don't you just SHOW me one of your superior Firefly renders (side-by-side with the P4 version) if it's all that easy. In ALL cases, I set pixel shading in the "Object" (P5 casual man) properties to match the pixel shading in the Render Options. Duh, I did read the book, ya know. And hey, I only been computer modeling for 25 years so I must be a real nubie, huh?