-Josh No offense meant, - just that I'm a bit tired of people trying to be "helpful" without reading the thread. I had stated in post #9 above: that I "tried shading rate as low as 0.05 (one tenth the setting for "production) and as high as 4 (the default for "draft")" So I expect that range would include the setting of 0.2 which you suggested. P.S. I also have feature film and Broadcast credits, as well as a couple of awards in technical areas, but that is neither here nor there as we are talking about Poser 5. I'm sure your work with other tools is equal to the best, but the question here is "What is the BEST that the P5 FIREFLY can do?". Rather than debating, I'd really like to see what you come up with in a side-by-side comparison (P4 vs. Firefly) of your own - and I mean that seriously and respectfully.