Hey Ron, Thanks for your work on all this! All that math makes me have a headache. I just want to apply a texture and hit render, Not all the work you have done. In the mean time, I'm playing safe and sticking with Poser 4 as 5 sits next to the computer. You are really doing the CL's job with testing these textures. I've been following your posts. So when I see a post from you that says Poser 5 is as easy to render and work with as 4, I load mind back on and apply the patches. :O) You walk the talk. Leah

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