I had lots of fairly friendly goes at CL in this forum, because I pre-ordered yet must have been one of the last to get my copy, considering the date of my pre-order. Now having got it, I am having problems. OK... now I say it was my fault for wanting to be in the forefront of things. I wanted P5, and I got it, before it has really been tested out. I didn't get P4 until it was a CL issue at 4.03. maybe my system isn't up to it, maybe we all pushed CL to issue before they really wanted to, lots of maybe's. And I still have P4 on my system, so I can still play, and carry on experimentating until I get P5 sorted. I waited a long time to get it, and I can now wait to get it sorted. I won't even bother to download the first patch, partly because I am on a really iffy dialup, partly because now I am prepared to wait until CL get to the stage that they would rather have been at before even releasing P5. People pushed, now look what has happened.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."