shrug Oh well, I guess Ironbear's opinion's going to be set in stone, despite all. "we're not rushing because we want it to be stable" as said from multiple beta testers and cooper himself, there were no instability bugs in the large beta test group. We've tracked down all the known stability bugs for BodyStudio in our beta test group. If another is found once we release, are you going to call me a con artist. I'm also excited about my software, just like all merchants here are excited when they release a new poser item. If I get excited about it and a problem is found after release are you going to say I'm running a scam? even if I release patches quickly like CL because I care.